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Excerpt form a discussion on Arcanorium College , concerning atheism and magic.

I regard many of myselves as fully paid up Dawkins Stormtroopers. The anthropomorphic monotheist deity of the main abrahamic religions looks like pre-rational idiotic nonsense to anyone with half an education and an inquiring mind, and this daft pernicious idea has led to innumerable instances of socio-political abuse, repression and oppression, and unnecessary slaughter. I void my bowels upon their supposedly 'holy' books, (all written by humans, not gods, as elementary scholarship shows).

Hey, no scientist or magician gets particularly upset if anyone uses their writings as toilet paper, after all print has become cheap and easily replaceable these days, so what's the problem for the religious types, why do they feel the need to defend their 'ideas' with murder?

Heck, how could it matter to some 'being' that creates on a scale of at least 11 billion light years whether some semi sentient apes on a small rock in an unfashionable suburb of an obscure spiral galaxy eat pork or enjoy reproductive related activity on a friday or not? 

On the other hand crass scientism in the hands of the mere initiates of science looks rather stupid also, the true magi of science understand that all useful theories remain provisional and subject to falsification.

Dawkins did however mention in The God Delusion that he considered Pantheism pretty close to Atheism, well that will do for me, despite Dawkins' skepticism about a lot of parapsychology.

If I want to worship anything I'll worship the entire universe, or any phenomena in it that seems interesting.

Magic, in my view, underlies both science and religion, or it damn well should do. Anything we discover looks like magic at first, then as we get used to it, and find out how to make it work reliably, we call it science. Magicians thus appear as the pioneers of the weird stuff on the edge of our understanding.
Similarly magic can tell us a great deal about the phenomena traditionally associated with religion, because unlike conventional 'scientific' psychology, it dares to experiment with belief itself.

We can do 'atheist' magic and 'deity' magic and compare the results, using a variable geometry of belief that neither scientists nor religionists can easily achieve.

By: Peter Carroll On Monday, 07 March 2011 Comment Comments( 0 ) Hits Views(22829)